Chicago Rapid Transit Mystery Photos

There is probably no way anyone could guess it, but this picture in CTA car 2787 was taken on the last day of Humboldt Park “L” service, May 3, 1952.

(Editor’s Note- Now that the contest has ended, you can find the same pictures with descriptive information added to the captions here. We thank everyone who participated.)

The Trolley Dodger has reached a milestone, with 20,000 page views in our first 90 days. To help celebrate that, we present 20 mystery photos, showing some very rare Chicago Rapid Transit scenes.

Over the next four days, we invite our readers to tell us some interesting things about these photos– where they were taken, what they show, and whatever tidbits of information you have to share.

The contest ends at midnight Central Time on April 25, 2015.
Send your answers to thetrolleydodger@gmail.com and we will update the captions with the best submissions once the contest has ended.

The photo at top is not part of the contest. When referring to individual photos, please use the image numbers provided in the captions. As always, clicking on each image will bring up a larger view in your browser.

We thank you in advance for your participating. Have fun figuring all this out.

-David Sadowski

PS- I’ll give you a clue. Chances are the pictures that have a piece of fuzz at the top of the frame were most likely taken around the same time, by the same unknown photographer.

You can read most of the submissions in the Comments section below. Here are some that were sent via e-mail:

Bill Wasik writes:

Congratulations on your successful launch, and thanks for posting hi-res jpegs that give us a better chance to ID these vintage shots. With the help of Google Maps, here are my guesses:

#800 – Garfield L – view west toward Pulaski?
#801 – ?
#802 – Jackson L – 63rd & S. Harvard Ave, view southwest toward 63rd St. No buildings shown here remain standing.
#803 – Douglas L –
#804 – Loop, Wabash & Randolph, view south.
#805 – Stock Yards line and Swift slaughterhouse, birthplace of the “disassembly line” and inspiration to Henry Ford to invent the automobile assembly line.
#806 – more Stock Yards
#807 – Ravenswood L – view east at N. Rockwell. A faded trackside sign on the upholstering shop in this photo reads “Canton Hand Laundry.” Remarkably, this sign remains visible today, 70 years after this vintage shot was taken, demonstrating the durability of lead paint and linseed oil.
#808 – Humboldt L – view northwest at Damen & Milwaukee. Riding this line could mean a nice afternoon in the park and visit to the soda fountain at Mid-City? Dairy on North Avenue, or, more likely, a visit to Dr. Orloff, the family dentist on North & California, across from Walgreens and the Crystal Theater.
#809 – Lake St. L – Oak Park.
#810 – Jackson L, south at 62nd St.
#811 – 63rd & Harvard, southwest.
#812 – 63rd, near Harvard, northeast.
#813 – Garfield L, west.
#814 – Lake near Wells, looking east.
#815 – Ravenswood L terminus, Lawrence & Kimball.
#816 – Loop, Wabash, next to Field’s.
#817 – 63rd & S. Harvard.
#818 – Logan Square terminal in 1950, with new cars to test in the final months of the Milwaukee-Van Buren run along Paulina.
#819 – not shown
#820 – Garfield L running at grade on Van Buren, view east, maybe near Western. Probably late 1953, just after the L structure was closed.

Anyway, thanks again for your great site. Keep up the good work.

David Streeter writes:

I’m sure you figured out for yourselves that 805 and 806 are on the Stock
Yards branch and 809 is on the Lake Street line. 804 and 817 are
self-evident. I think 802 and 811 are at the same location (and therefore
probably the same date) as 817.

I also think 807 is on the Ravenswood at Rockwell; the two buildings
across the street appear to still be there today. I suspect 815 is at
Kimball, at the end of the Ravenswood.

I’m going to hazard a guess that 820 is the Garfield running on the ground
while the Congress Expressway is being built. Someone more knowledgeable
(or older) than I will probably recognize the water tank on the far right
edge.

I’d be very interested to know where some of the others are.

William Shapotkin writes:

Here are my tries at locating the ‘L’ photos. In identifying these locations, I did NOT use a map (figuring that if I knew it as well as I thought I did, no map was needed). That said, here are my offerings:

800 — Marshfield Ave looking west. That’s a W/B CA&E train of North Shore woods. This is before clearing for the expressway started.

801 — Kimball Yard looking north. (The bus is working a S/B trip on Rt # 82 — Kimball-Homan).

802 — Englewood ‘L’ looking west from Harvard station.

803 — Douglas Pk ‘L’ looking east from Oak Park Ave.

804 — Randolph/Wabash looking south.

805 — Stock Yards (looking west from Halsted?)

806 — Stock Yards (looking east from Halsted?).

807 — Ravenswood looking east from Kedzie Station.

808 — North/Dament looking north off S/B platform.

809 — Lake St (somewhere betw Central Ave and Oak Pk Ave).

810 — Indiana Ave — that is a Kenwood shuttle sitting in the pocket. View looks east.

811 — Same as image #802 (but with a N/B Normal Pk trn approaching).

812 — Kenwood ‘L’ — a S/B train is heading off to 42nd Pl terminal.

813 — Same as Image 800, but with a S/B Logan Square (or Humbolt Pk) train at right.

814 — Adams/Wabash looking south.

815 — Kimball/Lawrence terminal.

816 — Somewhere on the Loop (not sure of location).

817 — 63rd/Harvard on Englewood. Is that a N/B Normal Pk train in the station?

818 — Logan Square terminal.

820 — W/B Garfield Pk train (which will connect with CA&E’s 6:12 out of Des Plaines Ave). This, of course on the Van Buren St trackage. Location uncertian.

Ok, how good/bad did I do?

buslist@yahoo.com writes:

Kind of easy actually.

#800 looking west at the CA&E platform at Marshfield with ex NS equipment.
#801 looking towards Kimball shops and terminal on the Ravenswood (the ACF Brill C44 bus really gives it away)
#802 from the outbound platform at Harvard on the Englewood
#803 Oak Park ave on the Douglas branch.
#804 Randolph on the east side of the loop (read the station sign)
#805 looking west from the Exchange station on the Stock Yards branch
#806 looking east from the Halsted station on the Stock Yards branch
#807 on the Rave I think Rockwell.
#808 Damen on the Logan Square.
#809 reasonably sure that’s the west end of the Austin station on the Lake St.
#810 looking east @ Indiana Ave.
#811 see # 802
#812 looking SE from the Ellis & Lake Park station on the Kenwood
#813 see #800
#814 Clark/Lake on the loop.
#815 Kimball
#816 few clues here unless you know your buildings, guess on the Wabash side of the loop.
#817 Harvard on the Englewood.
#818 Logan Square terminal
#819 on Van Buren surface tracks. At Ashland? Certainly not west of there!

Cliff Burnstein writes:

805-806 Stockyards branch.
807- Francisco station on the Ravenswood.
810 42d and Indiana
815 Kimball station (Kimball and Lawrence), end of the line on the Ravenswood.
818 Logan Square end of the line, Milwaukee Av and Kedzie.c. 1951.
820 harrison and Ashland on the garfield, c. 1954.

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Our First 90 Days

The Trolley Dodger blog started exactly three months ago today, so I thought it would be a good idea to take stock of what we have accomplished. When we hung up our shingle, so to speak, we really had no firm idea what might happen.

90 days in the workplace is generally considered a probationary period. If you can do the job for that long, or so the thinking goes, maybe you have earned the right to keep your job on a more permanent basis.

In our first 90 days, we have made 26 posts on a variety of different transit-related topics. To date, we have received 20,000 page views for those posts, which include hundreds of photographs and several videos.

We have made our fair share of mistakes in life, but to get that kind of response, we must be doing something right.

But what’s most gratifying to me is how much participation we are getting from our readers. So far, there are 187 comments on those 26 posts.

The old type of web page is static. It is mostly text-based, and does not encourage the interaction or participation of its readers. Now we have this thing called “social networking.”

A blog is more like a magazine, with short articles that encourage readers to express their opinions. We like the idea of using pictures to tell stories, and we now have many devoted readers who want to take part in that conversation.

I would like to think I learn as much from our readers as they are likely to learn from me. It is a collaborative effort, and I believe this blog is ultimately only as good as the people who read it.

Little by little, with each new post, we are creating a body of reference work, with original research that more and more people can find in the future. We have now also started an online store, where our readers can help support this blog and our research efforts by purchasing the products we sell. You can also make a donation.

We will continue to update and expand the range of our offerings, in the hope that this venture can become a self-sustaining enterprise. If you have not already done so, we encourage you to check it out. We have many exciting things planned for the future.

Time is a precious commodity. Thanks for sharing some of it with us. It helps bring us all together, and by enlarging our horizons, makes the world a smaller place.

All in all, I’d say that The Trolley Dodger has turned the corner and is off to a good start. We will do our best to keep it going.

-David Sadowski

Chicago Streetcars in Black-and-White, Part 5

CSL 5716 at Exchange and 75th on October 15, 1945. (Tom Desnoyers Photo) You may recognize the Stratoliner Lounge from one of our earlier posts, which included a link to a color postcard view of the interior.

CSL 5716 at Exchange and 75th on October 15, 1945. (Tom Desnoyers Photo) You may recognize the Stratoliner Lounge from one of our earlier posts, which included a link to a color postcard view of the interior.

This is the fifth installment in our ongoing series Chicago Streetcars in Black-and-White.   You can find the other four installments (and the others we have done in color) by typing “Chicago streetcars” in the search window for this blog.

We offer you another generous selection of classic photos by some of the greatest railfan photographers of all time. As always, clicking on each picture will bring up a larger version in your browser.

If you have interesting information to share about these locales, we look forward to hearing from you. When referring to individual photos, please use either the car number or image number.

I am continually amazed at how expert our readers are at identifying mystery locations.

-David Sadowski

CSL 6029. (Joe L. Diaz Photo)

CSL 6029. (Joe L. Diaz Photo)

CSL 5711 turning from 108th onto Ewing. Bob Lalich says, "CSL 5711 looks to be backing onto Ewing from 108th. This spot was a transfer to the Brandon-Brainard line. The transfer location was later moved to 118th St." (Joe L. Diaz Photo)

CSL 5711 turning from 108th onto Ewing. Bob Lalich says, “CSL 5711 looks to be backing onto Ewing from 108th. This spot was a transfer to the Brandon-Brainard line. The transfer location was later moved to 118th St.” (Joe L. Diaz Photo)

Andre Kristopans says CSL 718 is "westbound on Adams at Wells." (Joe L. Diaz Photo)

Andre Kristopans says CSL 718 is “westbound on Adams at Wells.” (Joe L. Diaz Photo)

Andre Kristopans says, "CSL 6203 westbound on 75th at Coles." (Joe L. Diaz Photo)

Andre Kristopans says, “CSL 6203 westbound on 75th at Coles.” (Joe L. Diaz Photo)

Bob Lalich says, "CSL 6199 is headed NW on South Chicago Blvd at 75th St having just gone under the IC – Grand Crossing." (Joe L. Diaz Photo)

Bob Lalich says, “CSL 6199 is headed NW on South Chicago Blvd at 75th St having just gone under the IC – Grand Crossing.” (Joe L. Diaz Photo)

One-man CTA "sedan" 3324 at Cottage Grove and 115th. (M. D. McCarter Collection)

One-man CTA “sedan” 3324 at Cottage Grove and 115th. (M. D. McCarter Collection)

CTA 6131 at Kedzie and Bryn Mawr. (Joe L. Diaz Photo)

CTA 6131 at Kedzie and Bryn Mawr. (Joe L. Diaz Photo)

According to Chuck Amstein, CSL 5347, 5351, and 5438 are "at the north end of the Ashland line at W. Warner Ave. and N. Southport Ave., looking NNE towards Graceland cemetery. The street sign at center left looks like it could be Warner. The destination sign on car 5438 probably was already changed for the southbound run." (Joe L. Diaz Photo)

According to Chuck Amstein, CSL 5347, 5351, and 5438 are “at the north end of the Ashland line at W. Warner Ave. and N. Southport Ave., looking NNE towards Graceland cemetery. The street sign at center left looks like it could be Warner. The destination sign on car 5438 probably was already changed for the southbound run.” (Joe L. Diaz Photo)

CSL 2744. Bill Shapotkin says we are "looking west on 79th off the PRR (PFtW&C) overpass. (We're near the "other" Six Corners (79th/Stony/South Chicago)). Thus, the large vacant area west of the railroad tracks is the result of land clearing for the Calumet (now Chicago) Skyway and the first street intersection is Anthony." Bob Lalich concurs and adds, "Joe Diaz was on the PRR elevation when he took the photo." Andre Kristopans adds, "The Sears in the background closed in 2013." (Joe L. Diaz Photo)

CSL 2744. Bill Shapotkin says we are “looking west on 79th off the PRR (PFtW&C) overpass. (We’re near the “other” Six Corners (79th/Stony/South Chicago)). Thus, the large vacant area west of the railroad tracks is the result of land clearing for the Calumet (now Chicago) Skyway and the first street intersection is Anthony.” Bob Lalich concurs and adds, “Joe Diaz was on the PRR elevation when he took the photo.” Andre Kristopans adds, “The Sears in the background closed in 2013.” (Joe L. Diaz Photo)

CSL 1844 westbound on Harrison. (Joe L. Diaz Photo)

CSL 1844 westbound on Harrison. (Joe L. Diaz Photo)

CSL 5293.

CSL 5293.

CSL 1727 at West Shops, circa 1944. (CSL Photo)

CSL 1727 at West Shops, circa 1944. (CSL Photo)

CSL 3204-3206 and 3228 in 1928. Andre Kristopans gives the location as "Milwaukee looking north at Logan Blvd, from middle of Logan Square. Very rare shot of trains."

CSL 3204-3206 and 3228 in 1928. Andre Kristopans gives the location as “Milwaukee looking north at Logan Blvd, from middle of Logan Square. Very rare shot of trains.”

CSL 3207-3208 on Milwaukee Avenue circa 1925-29.

CSL 3207-3208 on Milwaukee Avenue circa 1925-29.

CSL 1740 at West Shops during World War II. (CSL Photo)

CSL 1740 at West Shops during World War II. (CSL Photo)

CSL 6264 and 3264 at 71st and California. (Joe L. Diaz Photo)

CSL 6264 and 3264 at 71st and California. (Joe L. Diaz Photo)

Andre Kristopans says, "CSL 6149 is at 77th carhouse, on the Vincennes side." (Joe L. Diaz Photo)

Andre Kristopans says, “CSL 6149 is at 77th carhouse, on the Vincennes side.” (Joe L. Diaz Photo)

CSL 6200 is northbound on Coles at 75th. (Joe L. Diaz Photo)

CSL 6200 is northbound on Coles at 75th. (Joe L. Diaz Photo)

Bob Lalich says, "CTA 6249 and 3244 are just north of 93rd St on Stony Island."

Bob Lalich says, “CTA 6249 and 3244 are just north of 93rd St on Stony Island.”

CSL 3315 on 71st looking west to California.

CSL 3315 on 71st looking west to California.

CSL Pullman 210, looking like it needs some front end work, alongside a trailer being used as a shed. (Joe L. Diaz Photo)

CSL Pullman 210, looking like it needs some front end work, alongside a trailer being used as a shed. (Joe L. Diaz Photo)

CSL 5626, signed for Navy Pier, prepares to pass car 6300. Bob Lalich says we are "just north of 93rd and Stony." (Joe L. Diaz Photo)

CSL 5626, signed for Navy Pier, prepares to pass car 6300. Bob Lalich says we are “just north of 93rd and Stony.” (Joe L. Diaz Photo)

CSL 3306 is westbound on 59th at Damen. (Joe L. Diaz Photo)

CSL 3306 is westbound on 59th at Damen. (Joe L. Diaz Photo)

CSL 3093 is turning northbound onto Sangamon from Adams. (Joe L. Diaz Photo)

CSL 3093 is turning northbound onto Sangamon from Adams. (Joe L. Diaz Photo)

Bob Lalich writes, "CSL 5705 is WB on 95th St passing under the B&O viaduct. South Chicago Blvd is in the background." Andre Kristopans agrees. (Joe L. Diaz Photo)

Bob Lalich writes, “CSL 5705 is WB on 95th St passing under the B&O viaduct. South Chicago Blvd is in the background.” Andre Kristopans agrees. (Joe L. Diaz Photo)

Bob Lalich says, "CSL 6204 is turning east onto 93rd St from Stony Island." Andre Kristopans adds, "#89-Jeffery/100 bus tail end on right."

Bob Lalich says, “CSL 6204 is turning east onto 93rd St from Stony Island.” Andre Kristopans adds, “#89-Jeffery/100 bus tail end on right.”

CSL 3075. (Joe L. Diaz Photo)

CSL 3075. (Joe L. Diaz Photo)

According to Andre Kristopans, "CSL 2744 is at Roscoe and Western loop. The big building in background is Lane Technical High School. Car is probably running a Lincoln-Roscoe trip, as the side sign is blank. Note that since the earlier shot on 79th car has migrated to a different carbarn!" (Joe L. Diaz Photo)

According to Andre Kristopans, “CSL 2744 is at Roscoe and Western loop. The big building in background is Lane Technical High School. Car is probably running a Lincoln-Roscoe trip, as the side sign is blank. Note that since the earlier shot on 79th car has migrated to a different carbarn!” (Joe L. Diaz Photo)

Car 80 is in service on the Whiting-East Chicago route, a joint operation between CSL and Hammond Whiting & East Chicago Railway, later Calumet Railways, and eventually Chicago & Calumet District Transit Co. This service ended on June 9, 1940. Andre Kristopans notes, "Sheffield ends about 121st or so where it merges into Calumet, Route was Indianapolis-Calumet-Sheffield-Gostlin-Hohman." Bob Lalich says, "Car 80 is headed SE on Indianapolis Blvd at Sheffield." On the other hand, Andre Kristopans says we are at "SB Indianapolis at Calumet."

Car 80 is in service on the Whiting-East Chicago route, a joint operation between CSL and Hammond Whiting & East Chicago Railway, later Calumet Railways, and eventually Chicago & Calumet District Transit Co. This service ended on June 9, 1940. Andre Kristopans notes, “Sheffield ends about 121st or so where it merges into Calumet, Route was Indianapolis-Calumet-Sheffield-Gostlin-Hohman.” Bob Lalich says, “Car 80 is headed SE on Indianapolis Blvd at Sheffield.” On the other hand, Andre Kristopans says we are at “SB Indianapolis at Calumet.”

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Railroad Record Club disc #13.

Railroad Record Club disc #13.

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Historic Audio Recordings on Compact Disc

The Trolley Dodger is making some historic public domain audio recordings available once again, digitally remastered to compact discs. All recordings are new digital transfers made in 2015 using the newest and most advanced technology. These “orphan works” were originally issued on vinyl in the 1950s and 1960s and have been out of print for a long time.

Our intention is to eventually reissue the entire output of the long-defunct Railroad Record Club. If you can assist with this effort, helping us find additional recordings that can be transferred, please contact us at: thetrolleydodger@gmail.com

These prices include shipping within the United States. If you need international shipping, there is an additional $5 charge per order that you can add to your shopping cart using one of the buttons below.

You can find detailed information on each RRC recording via our discography.

Most single discs include approximately 60 minutes of hi-fi audio. Orders will be shipped by either USPS First Class or Media Mail. All items on this list are in stock and available for immediate shipment. A copy of the original liner notes for each record will be enclosed.


RRC #02 and 25 (Traction)
Waterloo, Cedar Falls & Northern, Southern Iowa Railway
Illinois Terminal Railroad
# of Discs – 1
Price: $14.95


RRC #06 and 27 (Traction)
Potomac Edison (Hagerstown & Frederick)
Capital Transit Company
# of Discs – 1
Price: $14.95


RRC #07 and 13 (Steam)
Norfolk & Western, Illinois Central (also includes a bit of Illinois Terminal Railroad traction)
Nickel Plate Road
# of Discs – 1
Price: $14.95


RRC #11 (Traction)
Shaker Heights Rapid Transit
# of Discs – 1
Price: $7.95

This recording is being offered at a reduced price since it is only about 30 minutes long. We expect to pair it up with an additional recording in the future.


RRC #14 and SP6 (Traction)
Pacific Electric
The Milwaukee Road (electric freight)
# of Discs – 1
Price: $14.95


RRC #18 and 26 (Traction)
Chicago, North Shore & Milwaukee (passenger)
Chicago, North Shore & Milwaukee (freight)
# of Discs – 1
Price: $14.95


RRC #35 and 36 (Traction)
Milwaukee & Suburban Transport, Chicago, North Shore & Milwaukee
Chicago, Aurora & Elgin, Chicago Transit Authority
# of Discs – 1
Price: $14.95


RRC #SP4 (Traction)
Chicago, South Shore & South Bend Railroad
# of Discs – 2
Price: $19.95

This two-disc set contains about 90 minutes of audio and documents an entire 1962 trip on the South Shore Line between Chicago and South Bend.


IM (Traction)
Interurban Memories
# of Discs – 1
Price: $14.95

Interurban Memories includes approximately 46 minutes of hi-fi audio of the Pacific Electric and the North Shore Line in their twilight years 1959-1960. This was originally issued on LP by a record company that has long been out of business.


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A Railroad Record Club Discography

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The Railroad Record Club was started in the early 1950s by William Steventon (1921-1993), a farmer living near Hawkins, Wisconsin.  He issued a total of 37 10″ records (each containing about 30 minutes of audio) in his original series between about 1955 and 1965. In most years, four titles were issued.

One fan reports, “The Railroad Record Club was a hobby operation. Bill would edit tapes either sent to him by his friends, or from his own work, make a master tape, and send it off RCA’s custom record plant.”

Most records featured steam locomotives, but there were some traction recordings as well.  All of these included sounds that were once familiar to all, but were already fast disappearing from the American scene.  The recordings of the Railroad Record Club are an important part of the historical record, and supplement the films and photographs taken at the time.

Eventually, some of the original discs were reissued on 12″.  There were also some samplers made.

Hard information about the RRC seems to be lacking on the Internet, but I did find this article from the March 6, 1958 issue of the Milwaukee Sentinel:

TOWN STILL HEARS TRAIN ‘CHUG-CHUG’

HAWKINS, Wis., March 5 (Special) – The chug-chug of coal burning locomotives pulling up steep grades and the lonesome wail of the steam whistle can still be heard in this Rusk County village.  This is despite the fact that Soo Line train engines running through Hawkins have been dieselized for a number of years.  These sounds, instead, come from some 200,000 feet of tape recording made by William A. Steventon, manager of the Cream Valley Telephone Co. here.

200 CLUB MEMBERS

Steventon is the organizer of the Railroad Record Club, which has some 200 members throughout the United States and in several foreign countries.  During 1957 he sold 1,000 records in America, New Zealand, Australia, England and Canada.

Steventon got into this fascinating sideline in 1953 when his bride-to-be gave him a record of railroad sounds for Christmas.  It was of imitation noises, recorded in a studio.  This sounds like an unusual gift, until you learn that Steventon is the son of a locomotive engineer and climbed up on a chair to watch the trains go past his home in Mt. Carmel, Ill., as soon as he could walk.

TOY TRAINS AT 4

He got his first toy electric train when he was four years old.  As a teenager in the 1930s, he started building scale model electric trains.  Electric trains particularly fascinated Steventon.  He collected pictures of interurban lines throughout the country, also visiting as many of them as he could.

He now has seven complete model train sets and is working on another.  He hopes to get into steam locomotives later.  When he finishes building his new home east of Hawkins, Steventon plans to set up a system of tracks for his train.

When Steventon, working then for the government in Washington, D. C., got the sound recording for Christmas, he decided to record the real McCoy.

VISITED 15 STATES

Since then he has recorded steam and electric trains in 15 states– from New York to California, even in Chicago’s smoky Loop.  As you sit in Steventon’s office listening to the huff and puff of the engine and the clickety-clack of wheels over rail joints, you almost feel the sway of the cars.

Some recordings offered by Steventon to club members include sounds no longer heard on railroads such as the Illinois Terminal, Johnstown Traction, Potomac Edison, Waterloo, Cedar Falls & Northern, Shaker Heights Rapid Transit, Denver and Rio Grande Western, New York Central and the Duluth, Mesabi and Iron Range.  Club members are required to buy three of four records offered each year at a reduced rate.

ONE DESCRIBED

Here is his description of one record:

“One side will consist  of locomotive switching at Spooner, Wis.  Did you ever ride a sleeper and stop at some division point in the wee hours and listen to a nearby switch engine doing yeard work in a misting rain?  This is just such a recording.

“The other side will have the last steamer on the Wabash doing yard work at Bluffs, Ill.  This recording was made from the train and captures all the thrilling sounds of the air pump, clanging firebox door, exhaust and whistles.  This steamer has been retired since the spring of 1955, but lives on in this recording.”

Steventon said one woman in Maine wrote him that records her son has purchased “were so realistic that smoke from the trains got my curtains dirty.”

So, it appears Steventon dated the founding of the club to Christmas 1953, although I don’t think any records were issued before 1955.  The first introductory record was unnumbered, and the ones that followed ran from 1-36.  There were at least six special pressings in the early 1970s, and various samplers that presumably gave club members and record dealers some idea of what they could order each year.  Some records were reissued in 12″ format, and the club seems to have kept going until around 1986.

Here is what I assume to be a more or less complete Railroad Record Club discography. As far as I know, this is the first and only such discography that you will find online.

-David Sadowski

RAILROAD RECORD CLUB TITLES
0 Soo Line, Illinois Central (Introductory Record)
1 Wabash Railroad, Chicago, St. Paul, Minneapolis & Omaha
2 Waterloo, Cedar Falls & Northern, Southern Iowa Railway
3 Denver, Rio Grande & Western, East Broad Top
4 Baltimore and Ohio
5 Denver & Rio Grande Western
6 Potomac Edison (Hagerstown & Frederick)
7 Norfolk & Western, Illinois Central (Also includes a bit of Illinois Terminal Railroad)
8 Canadian National (aka Canadian Railroading in the Days of Steam)
9 Winston-Salem Southbound
10 Pennsylvania Railroad
11 Shaker Heights Rapid Transit
12 Duluth Missabe & Iron Range
13 Nickel Plate Road
14 Pacific Electric
15 Chicago, Burlington & Quincy
16 Westside Lumber Company
17 Minneapolis & St Paul, Sault Ste Marie Railway
18 Chicago, North Shore & Milwaukee
19 Duluth, Missabe & Iron Range
20 Chicago & Illinois Midland – New York Central
21 Duluth & Northeastern
22 Buffalo Creek & Gauley
23 Pennsy Trolleys
24 Canadian Pacific
25 Illinois Terminal Railroad
26 Chicago, North Shore & Milwaukee (freight)
27 Capital Transit Company
28 Charles City Western – Waterloo, Cedar Falls & Northern
29 Nickel Plate Road
30 Sound Scrapbook, Traction
31 Sound Scrapbook, Steam
32 New York Central
33 Chicago, South Shore & South Bend (freight)
34 Chicago, South Shore & South Bend (freight)
35 Milwaukee & Suburban Transport, Chicago, North Shore & Milwaukee (Disc says No. 36)
36 Chicago, Aurora & Elgin, Chicago Transit Authority (Disc says No. 35)

Special Pressings
SP1 The Silverton Train
SP2 Northern Pacific 2626 Memorial Album
SP3 Whistle ‘Round the Bend
SP4 Chicago, South Shore & South Bend Railroad (passenger)
SP5 Soo Line, Illinois Central
SP6 The Milwaukee Road (electric freight)

Samplers
S1 1st & 2nd Years -1-4, 5-8
S2 3rd & 4th Years – 9-12, 13-16
S3 5th Year – 17-20
S4 6th Year – 21-24
S5 7th & 8th Years – 25-28, 29-32
S6 9th year – 33-36

PS- Eric Bronsky writes:

As it turns out, I acquired a bunch of recordings many years ago and still have my copy of that Club’s 1965-1970 catalog. Scans are attached. The detailed description of each record should help you to fill in any gaps. You’re welcome to share these images through your blog.

I recall Bill Steventon’s apology for having to raise the price of all 10″ records to $4.00 (postpaid)! In those days the price increase seemed steep because I was earning only $3.00/hour.

I also saved several Record Club newsletters from various years up to 1986 and a 1971 catalog from Mobile Fidelity Records, which produced the original Interurban Memories album. All-Nation Hobby Shop once had a “record department” which sold RR sound recordings from several sources. “Traction Ted” Seifert was in charge of this.

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RRRC 06

RRRC 07

Railroad Record Club disc #13.

Railroad Record Club disc #13.

PS- You can now purchase some of these historic recordings on compact disc through our Online Store. We also posted a follow-up article about the RRC that you can read here.

Stephen L. Meyers, 1925-2015

Steve at Trainfest with his wife Sandy.

Steve at Trainfest with his wife Sandy.

Steven L. Meyers passed away on April 8 after a brief illness. He was born in New York City in 1925 and became enamored with the streetcar lines serving the various boroughs. During WWII he served in the Pacific. He moved to Evanston, IL in 1963 and enjoyed a long career in exporting and customs.

Over the years, Steve assembled a substantial collection of New York streetcar photos and documents. He authored three popular books:

Breezers: A Lighthearted History of the Open Trolley Car in America

Manhattan’s Lost Streetcars (Images of Rail)

Lost Trolleys of Queens and Long Island (Images of Rail)

Steve was involved with several railfan organizations. An HO traction modeler, Steve was a member of the NorthWest Traction Group.

-Eric Bronsky

PS- While I cannot say that I knew Mr. Meyers well, we had corresponded a bit and talked on the phone a few times. He was part of that “Greatest Generation” of railfans, whose contributions to our hobby will be remembered for a long time to come. Steve was a longtime member of both the Electric Railroaders’ Association and Central Electric Railfans’ Association.

He was a curmudgeon who did not suffer fools gladly, and gave as well as he got, and it is our loss that he is gone. He also wrote three excellent books that I have enjoyed reading, and amassed a tremendous collection of information on New York-area traction lines that I hope will find a good home.

Before his death, Steve wrote an extensive history of the Metropolitan Traction Company (later called Metropolitan Street Railway Company, which became part of New York Railways Company), which remains unpublished. I hope that it will eventually see the light of day.

Mr. Meyers had agreed to participate in a slide program that I have been working on, but sadly, it was not meant to be.

When I traveled to the Seashore Trolley Museum last summer, I was able to purchase a copy of Mr. Meyers’ book Breezers in their gift shop. It turns out to have been a presentation copy that Mr. Meyers gave to another notable author, the late O. R. Cummings, who wrote perhaps 50 books specializing in Northeast traction. Sadly, both men have departed, but they have left us a legacy that will remain.

Those of us transit historians of today should never forget that we are standing on the shoulders of giants like O. R. Cummings and Stephen L. Meyers.

-David Sadowski

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Kiddieland Videos

Our last post The Kiddielands of Chicago has been very well received, so we thought you might also like these videos we shot on October 3, 2009. These show some of the last rides ever taken at Kiddieland. By this time, the park was already closed to the public, as this was “employee appreciation day,” for the benefit of people who had worked there over the years.

In addition, here are some additional Kiddieland videos.

Enjoy!

-David Sadowski

The Kiddielands of Chicago

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There was a time when the Chicago area was dotted with several small amusement parks for children, the largest and most fondly remembered being Kiddieland in Melrose Park, at the corner of North and First Avenues. I made my first trip there in 1959 when I was all of four years old.

The miniature train ride, naturally, held out a special fascination, and Kiddieland had a roster of steam and diesel locomotives. Originally, the train went quite a distance around the perimeter of the park, but was unfortunately shortened somewhere along the way as the property got subdivided to create a driving range.

Being a kid in the 1950s and 1960s was a bit simpler than it is today. Kiddileand had a kiddie fire truck, made from a VW pickup, and if your parents arranged for it, it would drive out to your neighborhood to pick up you and your pals and bring you there so you could spend money. There weren’t any seat belts, so presumably if you fell out of the truck along the way to the park, that was your own damn fault and I doubt there was much that anyone would have done about it.

There were once a number of other small children’s amusement parks in the Chicagoland area, including Kiddie Town in Harwood Heights (adjacent to the Harlem Irving Plaza shopping center), Hollywood Kiddieland in Lincolnwood*, Playland Park in Justice, Adventureland in Addison, and Fairyland in Lyons. I’m sure there were others, but these are the ones that I recall. All are long gone.

There was a time after World War II when the US had many small amusement parks and outdoor drive-in movie theaters, but they are a vanishing breed. As cities expanded, developers moved in and purchased their land for strip malls, housing developments, and shopping centers.

The king of all local amusement parks had to be Riverview at Western and Belmont, where you could “laugh your troubles away.” I was fortunate also to have visited Riverview several times as a kid, and even rode on the parachute jump once, a scary but thrilling experience if there ever was one. After the park closed in 1967 it quickly passed into myth and legend.

Kiddieland too has passed into local legend, fondly remembered. It had an admirable safety record, but that was not always the case for its competitors, as this Chicago Tribune article about Playland shows.

There were other difficulties. The owners of Kiddieland sued Hollywood Kiddieland, accusing them of copying their name to trade off their good reputation.

Internet searches turned up some vintage home movies of Playland Park and Fairyland:

I also found some great articles about Hollywood Kiddieland and Kiddie Town. These pictures show that some amusement parks were not all sweetness and light, with uncut grass and dirt trails. But, based on how so many people have fond memories of these places, they made an incredible impression on young minds.

After Kiddieland closed on September 27, 2009, they held an “employee appreciation day” on October 3rd, to give anyone who had worked there over the years a chance to experience the park one last time. Since my brother Bill had worked there in 1971-72, we went there together, and I took the various Kiddieland pictures in this post.

I heard they were going to keep the famous sign, but did not discover where it had ended up until recently. I happened by the Melrose Park Public Library on 19th Avenue, just north of Lake Street, and there it was on the side of the building. Or there part of it was, at any rate, since the pole and many of the lights somehow were lost in the transition.

I’m glad that at least this much of Kiddieland was saved, but the overall effect of the sign (which does light up at night) will never be the same as it was when it was complete, and rotating, with an amusement park behind it, and the smell of popcorn and cotton candy.

Other parts of Kiddieland had an even better fate. The Little Dipper roller coaster is now at Six Flags Great America in Gurnee, and at least one of the miniature steam engines is at the Hesston Steam Museum in Indiana. I rode it in September 2010. It’s actually quite a nice ride, and much longer than Kiddieland had in the final years. They have a big to-do every Labor Day weekend, and it’s well worth the trip.

-David Sadowski

PS- Some readers also mention Kiddieville in Niles.

You can also see more local amusement park photos here.

*I am informed that Hollywood Kiddieland was actually located in Chicago, on the border with Lincolnwood, which was to the north.

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@Hesston Steam Museum, September 5, 2010.

@Hesston Steam Museum, September 5, 2010.

@Hesston Steam Museum, September 5, 2010.

@Hesston Steam Museum, September 5, 2010.

@Hesston Steam Museum, September 5, 2010.

@Hesston Steam Museum, September 5, 2010.

Kiddieland plaque at the Melrose Park Public Library.

Kiddieland plaque at the Melrose Park Public Library.

Kiddieland sign at the Melrose Park Public Library.

Kiddieland sign at the Melrose Park Public Library.

Kiddieland sign at the Melrose Park Public Library.

Kiddieland sign at the Melrose Park Public Library.

Chicago Streetcars in Black-and-White, Part 4

CSL 864 is westbound on Irving Park at Elston. (Edward Frank, Jr. Photo)

CSL 864 is westbound on Irving Park at Elston. (Edward Frank, Jr. Photo)

This is the fourth installment in our ongoing series Chicago Streetcars in Black-and-White.   You can find the other three installments (and the others we have done in color) by typing “Chicago streetcars” in the search window for this blog.

We offer you another generous selection of classic photos by some of the greatest railfan photographers of all time. As always, clicking on each picture will bring up a larger version in your browser.

If you have interesting information to share about these locales, we look forward to hearing from you. When referring to individual photos, please use either the car number or image number.

I am continually amazed at how expert our readers are at identifying mystery locations.

-David Sadowski

Irving Park Road and Elston as it appears today.

Irving Park Road and Elston as it appears today.

CSL 6004. (Joe L. Diaz Photo)

CSL 6004. (Joe L. Diaz Photo)

CSL 5659 on route 9 - Ashland. (Joe L. Diaz Photo)

CSL 5659 on route 9 – Ashland. (Joe L. Diaz Photo)

December 2, 1936 - "42 trolleys burn in $500,000 blaze. Forty two passenger and service trolley cars of the Chicago and West Towns Railway Company were destroyed when fire swept through the car barns in Oak Park, Ill., western suburb of Chicago. Busses will be used until the trolley cars can be replaced."

December 2, 1936 – “42 trolleys burn in $500,000 blaze. Forty two passenger and service trolley cars of the Chicago and West Towns Railway Company were destroyed when fire swept through the car barns in Oak Park, Ill., western suburb of Chicago. Busses will be used until the trolley cars can be replaced.”

The site of the former Chicago & West Towns streetcar barn as it looks today. A Dominick's Finer Foods was built here in the 1980s, after Pace had purchased the West Towns and moved the bus garage elsewhere. Dominck's closed in late 2013 and the building is being converted into a Pete's Fresh Market.

The site of the former Chicago & West Towns streetcar barn as it looks today. A Dominick’s Finer Foods was built here in the 1980s, after Pace had purchased the West Towns and moved the bus garage elsewhere. Dominck’s closed in late 2013 and the building is being converted into a Pete’s Fresh Market.

CTA 509 on July 22, 1953.

CTA 509 on July 22, 1953.

CTA 202 on July 23, 1953.

CTA 202 on July 23, 1953.

CSL 3299 on route 73 - Armitage. (Joe L. Diaz Photo)

CSL 3299 on route 73 – Armitage. (Joe L. Diaz Photo)

CSL 3216, westbound on 51st at Wallace. (Joe L. Diaz Photo)

CSL 3216, westbound on 51st at Wallace. (Joe L. Diaz Photo)

CSL 3105. Bill Shapotkin says, "Believe this car is westbound on 18th St approaching Canal Street. Note Continental Paper (left) -- still there and still getting rail service (by NS?). View looks east." (Joe L. Diaz Photo)

CSL 3105. Bill Shapotkin says, “Believe this car is westbound on 18th St approaching Canal Street. Note Continental Paper (left) — still there and still getting rail service (by NS?). View looks east.” (Joe L. Diaz Photo)

CSL 3057 on route 17, the Kedzie through route, at Belmont. The Kennedy Expressway now runs past this spot on elevation. The through route was replaced by buses on December 4, 1949.

CSL 3057 on route 17, the Kedzie through route, at Belmont. The Kennedy Expressway now runs past this spot on elevation. The through route was replaced by buses on December 4, 1949.

George Foelschow writes, CSL 2811 "is on page 29 of the Lind book, identified as 134th Street (where it ducks under the Illinois Central tracks)." (Joe L. Diaz Photo)

George Foelschow writes, CSL 2811 “is on page 29 of the Lind book, identified as 134th Street (where it ducks under the Illinois Central tracks).” (Joe L. Diaz Photo)

CSL 3298 on route 78 - Montrose, possibly during WWII. By this time, the western portion of the route was handled by trolley buses. Andre Kristopans adds that this "MIGHT be Montrose & Pulaski. Building on corner is heavily altered, but window arrangement does match." Richard Poemape writes, " the photo that you have for CSL 3298 on Route 78 - Montrose was taken at the intersection of Montrose and Clark. The building in the background is on the N/W corner."

CSL 3298 on route 78 – Montrose, possibly during WWII. By this time, the western portion of the route was handled by trolley buses. Andre Kristopans adds that this “MIGHT be Montrose & Pulaski. Building on corner is heavily altered, but window arrangement does match.” Richard Poemape writes, ” the photo that you have for CSL 3298 on Route 78 – Montrose was taken at the intersection of Montrose and Clark. The building in the background is on the N/W corner.”

CSL 1850. Bill Shapotkin adds, "westbound on Harrison Street between the South Branch of the Chicago River and Canal Street." (Joe L. Diaz Photo)

CSL 1850. Bill Shapotkin adds, “westbound on Harrison Street between the South Branch of the Chicago River and Canal Street.” (Joe L. Diaz Photo)

Andre Kristopans writes, "Car 1400 is on 21st/Fulton route, not Cermak. I would hazard a guess as to location being Monroe and Clinton, with car about to turn east to south." (Joe L. Diaz Photo)

Andre Kristopans writes, “Car 1400 is on 21st/Fulton route, not Cermak. I would hazard a guess as to location being Monroe and Clinton, with car about to turn east to south.” (Joe L. Diaz Photo)

Bob Lalich writes, "CSL 5705 is southbound at 100th and Ewing, emerging from the PRR viaduct. The NYC and B&O viaducts can also be seen in the background." (Joe L. Diaz Photo)

Bob Lalich writes, “CSL 5705 is southbound at 100th and Ewing, emerging from the PRR viaduct. The NYC and B&O viaducts can also be seen in the background.” (Joe L. Diaz Photo)

CSL 5793 at Cottage Grove and 26th on route 4. (M. D. McCarter Collection)

CSL 5793 at Cottage Grove and 26th on route 4. (M. D. McCarter Collection)

CSL 6025 at Kedzie and Bryn Mawr. (Joe L. Diaz Photo)

CSL 6025 at Kedzie and Bryn Mawr. (Joe L. Diaz Photo)

Bob Lalich says, "CTA “sedan” 3333 is turning west on 93rd St from Baltimore Ave. The IC South Chicago Branch can be seen in the background."

Bob Lalich says, “CTA “sedan” 3333 is turning west on 93rd St from Baltimore Ave. The IC South Chicago Branch can be seen in the background.”

CSL 745 at 4544 W. 26th, according to the address on the building at rear. (Robert W. Gibson Photo) Bill Shapotkin adds, "Yes, your location (a #60 -- Blue Island car at the end-of-line at 26th St/Kenton Ave) is correct. Have not been there in a long time -- but have heard that the building in background still stands (but would not bet the house on it without checking). Train at left is on the BRC."

CSL 745 at 4544 W. 26th, according to the address on the building at rear. (Robert W. Gibson Photo) Bill Shapotkin adds, “Yes, your location (a #60 — Blue Island car at the end-of-line at 26th St/Kenton Ave) is correct. Have not been there in a long time — but have heard that the building in background still stands (but would not bet the house on it without checking). Train at left is on the BRC.”

CSL 3301. (Joe L. Diaz Photo)

CSL 3301. (Joe L. Diaz Photo)

CSL 5722 is northbound on Stony Island at 69th. (Joe L. Diaz Photo)

CSL 5722 is northbound on Stony Island at 69th. (Joe L. Diaz Photo)

CTA 6101 is southbound on Kedzie at Elston. (Joe L. Diaz Photo)

CTA 6101 is southbound on Kedzie at Elston. (Joe L. Diaz Photo)

Bob Lalich writes that CSL 2619 is "northbound at the corner of 132nd and Brandon in Hegewisch. Photo is looking north." (Joe L. Diaz Photo)

Bob Lalich writes that CSL 2619 is “northbound at the corner of 132nd and Brandon in Hegewisch. Photo is looking north.” (Joe L. Diaz Photo)

CSL 1836 is "eastbound on Harrison at Ogden," according to Andre Kristopans. (Joe L. Diaz Photo)

CSL 1836 is “eastbound on Harrison at Ogden,” according to Andre Kristopans. (Joe L. Diaz Photo)

Andre Kristopans says,"1560 is a pull-in to Blue island car house going west on Blue island at Leavitt – car in background is at the south end of 18th St line on Leavitt at Blue Island."

Andre Kristopans says,”1560 is a pull-in to Blue island car house going west on Blue island at Leavitt – car in background is at the south end of 18th St line on Leavitt at Blue Island.”

CSL 1539. (Joe L. Diaz Photo)

CSL 1539. (Joe L. Diaz Photo)

Bob Lalich writes, “CSL 1407 is WB on 87th St having just passed Holland Road. The railroad viaduct in the background carries the tracks of the BRC and the freight tracks of the C&WI. Joe Diaz was standing on the viaduct of the C&WI passenger tracks when he took the photo.” (Joe L. Diaz Photo)

CSL 1400. Bill Shapotkin writes, "eastbound on Harrison at Canal Street (note Grand Central station in distance). Building immediately at right is still standing." (Joe L. Diaz Photo)

CSL 1400. Bill Shapotkin writes, “eastbound on Harrison at Canal Street (note Grand Central station in distance). Building immediately at right is still standing.” (Joe L. Diaz Photo)

CSL 5716 at Dorchester and 63rd, on the Windsor Park route. (Joe L. Diaz Photo)

CSL 5716 at Dorchester and 63rd, on the Windsor Park route. (Joe L. Diaz Photo)

CSL 2729 is "westbound on Pershing west of Cottage Grove. Car in background is a Pershing car at end of his route. Note Lincoln/Wrightwood sign – I would say this is a Lincoln/Indiana car pulling out via Pershing to Indiana to go north," according to Andre Kristopans. The sign advertising Jay McShann at the Savoy helps date this picture to 1946. (Joe L. Diaz Photo)

CSL 2729 is “westbound on Pershing west of Cottage Grove. Car in background is a Pershing car at end of his route. Note Lincoln/Wrightwood sign – I would say this is a Lincoln/Indiana car pulling out via Pershing to Indiana to go north,” according to Andre Kristopans. The sign advertising Jay McShann at the Savoy helps date this picture to 1946. (Joe L. Diaz Photo)

Chicago Streetcars in Black-and-White, Part 3

North Chicago Street Railroad horse car 8 on January 2, 1926. The occasion was the opening of the new Cicero Avenue streetcar extension. This car, built in 1859 by the John Stephenson Car Company, is preserved at the Illinois Railway Museum.

North Chicago Street Railroad horse car 8 on January 2, 1926. The occasion was the opening of the new Cicero Avenue streetcar extension. This car, built in 1859 by the John Stephenson Car Company, is preserved at the Illinois Railway Museum.

This is the third installment in our ongoing series Chicago Streetcars in Black-and-White.   (You will find the second installment here.)

We offer you another generous selection of classic photos by some of the greatest railfan photographers of all time. As always, clicking on each picture will bring up a larger version in your browser.

If you have interesting information to share about these locales, we look forward to hearing from you. When referring to individual photos, please use either the car number or image number.

-David Sadowski

PS- For a view of the Stratoliner Lounge’s interior, click here.

CTA 1052, with a CSL logo still on the side of the car, on Damen Avenue on June 5, 1948.

CTA 1052, with a CSL logo still on the side of the car, on Damen Avenue on June 5, 1948.

CSL 1775 at Archer and Rockwell on October 25, 1942. (Joe L. Diaz Photo)

CSL 1775 at Archer and Rockwell on October 25, 1942. (Joe L. Diaz Photo)

CSL 5645.

CSL 5645.

CSL 2571.

CSL 2571.

CSL 5782 on route 5 at Cottage Grove and 38th.

CSL 5782 on route 5 at Cottage Grove and 38th.

CSL 5070 "at Van Buren in front of Kedzie carhouse." -Andre Kristopans (Joe L. Diaz Photo)

CSL 5070 “at Van Buren in front of Kedzie carhouse.” -Andre Kristopans (Joe L. Diaz Photo)

CSL 1026 passes 3290 at Lincoln and Wells, with the Hotel Lincoln in the background.

CSL 1026 passes 3290 at Lincoln and Wells, with the Hotel Lincoln in the background.

CSL 1408 at Ashland and Fulton in May 1946. Andre Kristopans adds, "note two things here – operator of car (not motorman, as this is a one-man car) has thrown the manual switch to continue east on Fulton, and note the trolley wire is a gauntlet between the two Fultons with a crossing frog, not a switch." (Robert W, Gibson Photo)

CSL 1408 at Ashland and Fulton in May 1946. Andre Kristopans adds, “note two things here – operator of car (not motorman, as this is a one-man car) has thrown the manual switch to continue east on Fulton, and note the trolley wire is a gauntlet between the two Fultons with a crossing frog, not a switch.” (Robert W, Gibson Photo)

CSL 3002 on Cicero at Lake Street, circa 1940. (M. D. McCarter Collection)

CSL 3002 on Cicero at Lake Street, circa 1940. (M. D. McCarter Collection)

CSL 200 is westbound on 75th and Exchange, crossing the Illinois Central electric. At left is the Stratoliner Lounge, located at 2634 E. 75th Street. (Joe L. Diaz Photo)

CSL 200 is westbound on 75th and Exchange, crossing the Illinois Central electric. At left is the Stratoliner Lounge, located at 2634 E. 75th Street. (Joe L. Diaz Photo)

CSL 2770 eastbound on 79th Street at Exchange Avenue. (Joe L. Diaz Photo)

CSL 2770 eastbound on 79th Street at Exchange Avenue. (Joe L. Diaz Photo)

CSL 3263 "westbound on 51st at California." -Andre Kristopans (Joe L. Diaz Photo)

CSL 3263 “westbound on 51st at California.” -Andre Kristopans (Joe L. Diaz Photo)

CSL 2906 at 26th and Cottage Grove. (Joe L. Diaz Photo)

CSL 2906 at 26th and Cottage Grove. (Joe L. Diaz Photo)

Bob Lalich says, "The photo of NB 2619 was taken at 122nd St at the north end of the passing siding. I have seen a number of photos of two cars meeting at this spot, so I believe it was a regularly scheduled meeting point. This passing siding was literally in the middle of a marsh. The PRR-Calumet River RR can be seen in the background. The crossbuck protects the crossing of 122nd St and the Cal River RR. Republic Steel is also seen in the background." (Joe L. Diaz Photo)

Bob Lalich says, “The photo of NB 2619 was taken at 122nd St at the north end of the passing siding. I have seen a number of photos of two cars meeting at this spot, so I believe it was a regularly scheduled meeting point. This passing siding was literally in the middle of a marsh. The PRR-Calumet River RR can be seen in the background. The crossbuck protects the crossing of 122nd St and the Cal River RR. Republic Steel is also seen in the background.” (Joe L. Diaz Photo)

CSL 1875. (Joe L. Diaz Photo) Mike Franklin adds, "Car 1875 is westbound on Harrison and appears to be turning northbound on Halsted. Camera is looking NE from Blue Island Ave."

CSL 1875. (Joe L. Diaz Photo) Mike Franklin adds, “Car 1875 is westbound on Harrison and appears to be turning northbound on Halsted. Camera is looking NE from Blue Island Ave.”

CSL 679 "westbound on 75th at Constance – B&O crossing (technically Baltimore & Ohio & Chicago RR old main line up to the IC at 69th and Dorchester)." -Andre Kristopans (Joe L. Diaz Photo)

CSL 679 “westbound on 75th at Constance – B&O crossing (technically Baltimore & Ohio & Chicago RR old main line up to the IC at 69th and Dorchester).” -Andre Kristopans (Joe L. Diaz Photo)

CSL 1949 is eastbound on Grand, and 2909 is westbound on Division. (Joe L. Diaz Photo)

CSL 1949 is eastbound on Grand, and 2909 is westbound on Division. (Joe L. Diaz Photo)

CSL 759 "is on Division west of California by Humboldt Park (west terminal of Division)." -Andre Kristopans (Joe L. Diaz)

CSL 759 “is on Division west of California by Humboldt Park (west terminal of Division).” -Andre Kristopans (Joe L. Diaz)

CSL 5404 "at 77th by 'east house' (now east half of barn that street between halves was roofed over)." -Andre Kristopans (Joe L. Diaz Photo)

CSL 5404 “at 77th by ‘east house’ (now east half of barn that street between halves was roofed over).” -Andre Kristopans (Joe L. Diaz Photo)

CSL 5583 on Vincennes near 104th.

CSL 5583 on Vincennes near 104th.

CSL 5817 at 95th and Commercial on route 5. (Joe L. Diaz Photo)

CSL 5817 at 95th and Commercial on route 5. (Joe L. Diaz Photo)

CSL 6117 southbound on California at Division. (Joe L. Diaz Photo)

CSL 6117 southbound on California at Division. (Joe L. Diaz Photo)

CSL 1740 at West Shops. (CSL Photo)

CSL 1740 at West Shops. (CSL Photo)

CSL 1740 at West Shops. (CSL Photo)

CSL 1740 at West Shops. (CSL Photo)

CSL 952 on a charter.

CSL 952 on a charter.

CSL 1784 at West Shops. (CSL Photo)

CSL 1784 at West Shops. (CSL Photo)

CSL 949 on route 3. Andre Kristopans says we are "southbound at Indiana/43rd. Building to right is still there, though much altered (deteriorated)." (Robert W. Gibson Photo)

CSL 949 on route 3. Andre Kristopans says we are “southbound at Indiana/43rd. Building to right is still there, though much altered (deteriorated).” (Robert W. Gibson Photo)

CSL 1740 at West Shops. (CSL Photo)

CSL 1740 at West Shops. (CSL Photo)

CSL 1746 at West Shops in October 1943. (CSL Photo)

CSL 1746 at West Shops in October 1943. (CSL Photo)

CSL 6062 at 77th. (Joe l. Diaz Photo)

CSL 6062 at 77th. (Joe l. Diaz Photo)

CSL 5821, southbound on Cottage Grove near 105th. (Robert V. Mehlenbeck Photo)

CSL 5821, southbound on Cottage Grove near 105th. (Robert V. Mehlenbeck Photo)

CSL 6200 by Hammond Station (car house), 1939. According to Andre Kristopans, this street is called Gostlin. (M.D. McCarter Collection)CSL 6200 by Hammond Station (car house), 1939. According to Andre Kristopans, this street is called Gostlin. (M.D. McCarter Collection)

CSL 6200 by Hammond Station (car house), 1939. According to Andre Kristopans, this street is called Gostlin. (M.D. McCarter Collection)